diff --git a/lisp/Makefile.in b/lisp/Makefile.in
index bcf4a3146d4..e66d80f8144 100644
--- a/lisp/Makefile.in
+++ b/lisp/Makefile.in
@@ -304,16 +304,18 @@ endif
 ifeq ($(HAVE_NATIVE_COMP),yes)
 ifeq ($(ANCIENT),yes)
 # The first compilation of compile-first, using an interpreted compiler:
-# The resulting .elc files get given a date of 1971-01-01 so that their
-# date stamp is earlier than the source files, causing these to be compiled
-# into native code at the second recursive invocation of this $(MAKE),
-# using these .elc's.  This is faster than just compiling the native code
-# directly using the interpreted compile-first files.  (Note: 1970-01-01
-# fails on some systems.)
+# The resulting .elc files get given a timestamp of the Unix epoch,
+# 1970-01-01, so that their timestamps are earlier than the source files,
+# causing these to be compiled into native code at the second recursive
+# invocation of this $(MAKE), using these .elc's.  This is faster than just
+# compiling the native code directly using the interpreted compile-first
+# files.  Note that the epoch date is hard-coded into Fload in src/lread.c
+# which uses it to avoid displaying certain messages which might be
+# irritating/misleading during a bootstrap.
 .el.elc:
 	$(AM_V_ELC)$(emacs) $(BYTE_COMPILE_FLAGS) \
 	-l comp -f batch-byte-compile $<
-	touch -t 197101010000 $@
+	TZ=UTC touch -t 197001010000 $@
 else
 .el.elc:
 	$(AM_V_ELC)$(emacs) $(BYTE_COMPILE_FLAGS) \
diff --git a/src/lread.c b/src/lread.c
index 51cbf811bab..dfa4d9afb51 100644
--- a/src/lread.c
+++ b/src/lread.c
@@ -1423,6 +1423,7 @@ Return t if the file exists and loads successfully.  */)
 	  struct stat s1, s2;
 	  int result;
 
+	  struct timespec epoch_timespec = {(time_t)0, 0}; /* 1970-01-01T00:00 UTC */
 	  if (version < 0 && !(version = safe_to_load_version (file, fd)))
 	    error ("File `%s' was not compiled in Emacs", SDATA (found));
 
@@ -1451,7 +1452,12 @@ Return t if the file exists and loads successfully.  */)
                   newer = 1;
 
                   /* If we won't print another message, mention this anyway.  */
-                  if (!NILP (nomessage) && !force_load_messages)
+                  if (!NILP (nomessage) && !force_load_messages
+		      /* We don't want this message during
+			 bootstrapping for the "compile-first" .elc
+			 files, which have had their timestamps set to
+			 the epoch.  See bug #58224.  */
+		      && timespec_cmp (get_stat_mtime (&s1), epoch_timespec))
                     {
                       Lisp_Object msg_file;
                       msg_file = Fsubstring (found, make_fixnum (0), make_fixnum (-1));